About Kaspersky 10 Devices License

[Fandy]

Hello, if we buy a Kaspersky Premium license for 10 devices and then use it on 10 different PCs.
Is each PC connected to each other via Kaspersky?

Suppose my friends and I buy a license for 10 devices using 1 account of my friend.
So my friend (who has an account to buy 10 licenses) can access other PCs via Kaspersky?
For example, see the usage history of other PCs? see the programs installed on the PC or even something else?

Thanks

[Berny]

@Fandy Hi,

Sharing a Kaspersky license is not setting up a LAN network  …

[BlackEdition]

You should check Kaspersky's license agreement because im not sure any company allows account sharing with someone outside your household. This is the enemy of most service providers because it makes them lose a lot of money (we all saw what Netflix has been trying to do in recent years lol).

If you continue to do so regardless of the terms, you may get away with it and save a lot of money this way, but maybe there's a possibility that one day they will catch you and terminate your license/account without a refund. So just keep this in mind with anything related to account sharing (unless they specifically state that it is allowed, in which case enjoy doing it freely). Anyway, I get where you're coming from and I will try to give you some info so you can decide for yourself.

As far as I know, a My Kaspersky account will not show very sensitive information such as personal files and recent history of whatever.

However, the account owner will be able to see/do some things that you may not be comfortable with:

• They can see all the names of the devices connected to the account, along with some info related to them (such as protection status, mobile phone battery %, and what other Kaspersky apps they have installed).

 

• They can control some of the in-app settings (such as turning on/off some components). I find this a bit risky and I wouldn't trust anyone not to mess with my settings and leave me vulnerable. In these account-sharing situations, I would always either have to be the account owner myself and force them to trust me, or I just create my own and go solo.

 

• The worst one is that the account holder can access/perform some features on your phone (you can enable/disable this feature however you wish). They can lock & locate your phone (maybe they can see it on a map?), take a mugshot, enable an alarm, or wipe your data! I never tried any of these but there's no way I can trust someone else to have control over these (especially the mugshot part...imagine someone remotely activating your phone and taking pictures without your knowledge? I don't even trust Google & Kaspersky with this, let alone some person). I think this alone will force you to have an account of your own (or you could join a shared account and disable this feature and live without it).

 

• Regarding the Password Manager feature, it will not unlock for the account owner until they enter the master password for the vault that you set yourself (it's different from the My Kaspersky account password). My account is not shared so im not sure how the PM feature works with multi users on the same account, so it's best to ask someone else if you're interested in using this feature.

 

Finally, im just a regular user like you (not a Kaspersky support specialist), so there may be some other things that im not aware of. Do at your own risk.

Edited November 18 by BlackEdition

[Flood and Flood's wife]

On 11/11/2024 at 9:09 PM, Fandy said:

Hello, if we buy a Kaspersky Premium license for 10 devices and then use it on 10 different PCs.
Is each PC connected to each other via Kaspersky?

Suppose my friends and I buy a license for 10 devices using 1 account of my friend.
So my friend (who has an account to buy 10 licenses) can access other PCs via Kaspersky?
For example, see the usage history of other PCs? see the programs installed on the PC or even something else?

Hello @Fandy, 

Welcome!

1. The *Subscriber-Licence owner* (your friend) of the ten device subscription - can *invite* nine other users to share the Kaspersky Premium Subscription. He can invite family, friends, people from Mars -> Kaspersky specifically designed Kaspersky Premium & Kaspersky Plus with a *subscription sharing component* -> READ: Shared protection.
2. (your) friend will not buy ten licenses/subscriptions (unless he's incredibly wealthy), he'll buy one subscription, for ten User accounts and ten devices. 
3. The *Subscriber-Licence owner* will have no control of any devices owned by *invited* user's *unless* he has (your) MyKaspersky account password, which hopefully (you) will not be sharing with anyone, furthermore - hopefully - you'll enable two-factor-authentication - on (your) own MyKaspersky account so no-one can mess with (your) devices. 
4. A shared subscription does not give the subscription/license holder access to your MyKaspersky account & OR your devices. 
5. For *any* remote management, Database updates, Scans, Anti-theft, the action is taken via the MyKaspersky account *associated* with the device; your devices will not be *associated* with (your) friends' MyKaspersky account. 
6. The *Subscription/license owner* will know & see (your) email address, that will be in his MyKaspersky account - he needs that to share his subscription with you. 
7. The Subscriber/License owner gets, his/her own MyKaspersky account, Premium AV, Premium Password Manager, Premium Unlimited VPN, Premium Kaspersky Safe Kids. 
8. Each *invited* User account will get:

• Their own MyKaspersky account. 
• Premium AV. 
• Premium Password Manger. 
• Standard / Free VPN.

Any questions or issues, please post back!

Thank you🙏
Flood🐳+🐋

[BlackEdition]

On 11/18/2024 at 6:31 PM, Flood and Flood's wife said:

 

Hi, Are you confirming that Kaspersky officially allows sharing the subscription with other users outside of your own family/household? I don't have the time to dig through the EULA for the legal terms but I doubt they admittedly allow this as it means many people will just buy a license for more devices then share it with strangers for a much cheaper price. Every service provider in the world is trying to combat these sharing tactics to avoid losing revenue.

Edited November 20 by BlackEdition

[Flood and Flood's wife]

1 hour ago, BlackEdition said:

Hi, Are you confirming that Kaspersky officially allows sharing the subscription with other users outside of your own family/household? I don't have the time to dig through the EULA for the legal terms but I doubt they admittedly allow this as it means many people will just buy a license for more devices then share it with strangers for a much cheaper price. Every service provider in the world is trying to combat these sharing tactics to avoid losing revenue.

READ: Shared protection @BlackEdition

You don't have to read the EULA.

What does Kaspersky care who their subscribers share the subscriptions with - the subscription has been sold & activated (in the Subscribers' name), *activation* only happens *once* at the point the subscription is successfully paid for (IF the subscription is purchased from a Kaspersky website).  

IF (we) share our Premium sub with you, you don't need to activate it, we've already done that, you provide your email address, we send you an invitation, you download the software & proceed - Kaspersky *designed* the Plus & Premium packages to be shared. They don't discriminate - family, friends, the neighbours dog-if-it's-IT-literate, Martians -> Kaspersky does not care, sharing is caring.  

Thank you🙏
Flood🐳+🐋

[BlackEdition]

8 hours ago, Flood and Flood's wife said:

READ: Shared protection @BlackEdition

You don't have to read the EULA.

What does Kaspersky care who their subscribers share the subscriptions with - the subscription has been sold & activated (in the Subscribers' name), *activation* only happens *once* at the point the subscription is successfully paid for (IF the subscription is purchased from a Kaspersky website).  

IF (we) share our Premium sub with you, you don't need to activate it, we've already done that, you provide your email address, we send you an invitation, you download the software & proceed - Kaspersky *designed* the Plus & Premium packages to be shared. They don't discriminate - family, friends, the neighbours dog-if-it's-IT-literate, Martians -> Kaspersky does not care, sharing is caring.  

Thank you🙏
Flood🐳+🐋

That page does not indicate whether sharing the subscription with someone outside your household is allowed. It only explains how to share it with someone else (in this case, I assume it's your family/household). What if the EULA says that you're only allowed to share it within your household? We can only be sure if we read the EULA.

Yes, while it may be almost impossible for Kaspersky to know if those users that you're sharing it with are not within your household, it still doesn't mean they allow it. Huge difference there when it comes to legal matters.

I truly wish if what you said is true, but the sad reality (and common sense, really) is that no company wants you to share a subscription with people other than your close family (or whoever is living with you under the same roof = household). The reason is to prevent everyone from splitting the price and enjoying it for dirt cheap.

Sharing subscriptions can be very costly for service providers. Just look at the numbers below (current official prices converted to USD as of now on Kaspersky ME website during the Black Friday deals, without tax or coupons or any special discounts):

• Kaspersky Premium 1 Device - 1 Year = $23.73
• Kaspersky Premium 3 Devices - 1 Year = $26.94 ($8.98 for 1 year per device)
• Kaspersky Premium 5 Devices - 1 Year = $29.07 ($5.82 for 1 year per device)
• Kaspersky Premium 10 Devices - 1 Year = $34.67 ($3.47 for 1 year per device)
• Kaspersky Premium 20 Devices - 2 Years = $94.40 ($2.36 for 1 year per device)

The last one will be at an insane 90% discount for each person, practically free! No way will Kaspersky be ok with their subscribers doing this and splitting the price between their friends and strangers. Even if you're a Kaspersky partner and you buy 1000 licenses for 1D1Y, it will still cost you much more than $2.36 (trust me, I run my own software-selling store).

Imagine if those same 20 people continued doing this for just 4 years in a row, Kaspersky would be losing $1709.60 from just 20 people. Now let's apply this to however many millions of their customers and Kaspersky will probably go bankrupt within a year. Just look at how much they're losing just by getting banned from the US, which maybe only represents less than 20% (just my guess) of their global customers.

Edited November 21 by BlackEdition

[Flood and Flood's wife]

18 minutes ago, BlackEdition said:

That page does not indicate whether sharing the subscription with someone outside your household is allowed. It only explains how to share it with someone else (in this case, I assume it's your family/household). What if the EULA says that you're only allowed to share it within your household? We can only be sure if we read the EULA.

Yes, while it may be almost impossible for Kaspersky to know if those users that you're sharing it with are not within your household, it still doesn't mean they allow it. Huge difference there when it comes to legal matters.

I truly wish if what you said is true, but the sad reality (and common sense, really) is that no company wants you to share a subscription with people other than your close family (or whoever is living with you under the same roof = household). The reason is to prevent everyone from splitting the price and enjoying it for dirt cheap.

Sharing subscriptions can be very costly for service providers. Just look at the numbers below (current official prices converted to USD as of now on Kaspersky ME website during the Black Friday deals, without tax or coupons or any special discounts):

• Kaspersky Premium 1 Device - 1 Year = $23.73
• Kaspersky Premium 3 Devices - 1 Year = $26.94 ($8.98 for 1 year per device)
• Kaspersky Premium 5 Devices - 1 Year = $29.07 ($5.82 for 1 year per device)
• Kaspersky Premium 10 Devices - 1 Year = $34.67 ($3.47 for 1 year per device)
• Kaspersky Premium 20 Devices - 2 Years = $94.40 ($2.36 for 1 year per device)

The last one will be at an insane 90% discount for each person, practically free! No way will Kaspersky be ok with their subscribers doing this and splitting the price between their friends and strangers. Even if you're a Kaspersky partner and you buy 1000 licenses for 1D1Y, it will still cost you much more than $2.36 (trust me, I run my own software-selling store).

Imagine if those same 20 people continued doing this for just 4 years in a row, Kaspersky would be losing $1709.60 from just 20 people. Now let's apply this to however many millions of their customers and Kaspersky will probably go bankrupt within a year. Just look at how much they're losing just by getting banned from the US, which maybe only represents less than 20% (just my guess) of their global customers.

Hello @BlackEdition,

Thank you for posting back!

Kaspersky designed Kaspersky Plus & Kaspersky Premium with the facility to be shared. 

There is no qualifying statement - by Kaspersky - that says - the sharing must only be amongst *family*.

Kaspersky do not ask for a DNA test - at the point of sale. 

IF the subscriber buys a subscription for 20, 30, 100 - whatever number - user accounts - it makes no difference if the subscriber shares the subscription with family or friends - the subscriber is not reselling. 

We've confirmed all of the information with Kaspersky. 

IF you have any issues with the information we've provided, please log a request with Kaspersky Customer Service. 

Thank you🙏
Flood🐳+🐋

Edited November 21 by Flood and Flood's wife
grammar

[BlackEdition]

29 minutes ago, Flood and Flood's wife said:

Hello @BlackEdition,

Thank you for posting back!

Kaspersky designed Kaspersky Plus & Kaspersky Premium with the facility to be shared. 

There is no qualifying statement - by Kaspersky - that says - the sharing must only be amongst *family*.

Kaspersky do not ask for a DNA test - at the point of sale. 

IF the subscriber buys a subscription for 20, 30, 100 - whatever number - user accounts - it makes no difference if the subscriber shares the subscription with family or friends - the subscriber is not reselling. 

We've confirmed all of the information with Kaspersky. 

IF you have any issues with the information we've provided, please log a request with Kaspersky Customer Service. 

Thank you🙏
Flood🐳+🐋

Technically, all Kaspersky home products can be shared if the license covers more than 1 device (even Kaspersky Basic, if they sell it anywhere). There's no way for them to know if you're reselling the license.

As I mentioned before, yes, it's almost impossible for Kaspersky (or any service provider in this matter) to know if you're sharing the subscription with someone outside your family/household, unless they apply restrictions to the same IP connection, city, country, or region, which is not a smart idea anyway because you or a close family member may be travelling abroad while using the subscription, and people will get a different IP even when they're in the same house and not connected to the same WiFi network (VPNs exist too and practically everyone use them these days).

BUT, all of that aside, this still doesn't mean that the agreement allows sharing your subscription with strangers. In this case, companies will ask for some kind of proof otherwise they cancel the user's subscription and/or lock their account to prevent losses. This doesn't mean Kaspersky will enforce this rule (if it's against their terms), and most people will probably get away with it, but again this doesn't mean that they allow it. Im strictly talking legality here.

Listen, I really want you to be right about this because life would be happier for me, but the reality is that I've been working in this business for years and I have a lot of experience with sharing and regional restrictions when it comes to software (and digital goods in general).

I will try to check their EULA and see what I can find.

Edited November 21 by BlackEdition

[Flood and Flood's wife]

2 hours ago, BlackEdition said:

Listen, I really want you to be right about this because life would be happier for me, but the reality is that I've been working in this business for years and I have a lot of experience with sharing and regional restrictions when it comes to software (and digital goods in general).

I will try to check their EULA and see what I can find.

Hello @BlackEdition, 

Once again, we went back to the Kaspersky team on your behalf. We asked them:

"To share a Kaspersky Plus & OR Kaspersky Premium subscription are there any restrictions on *who* those users are?"

Their answer: "No restriction for people who you wish to invite."

We qualified our question: "so we can invite our neighbour, or our church minister or our teacher or a policeman or a homeless person or someone we've never met, is that correct?"

Their answer: "Yes, that's correct."

Thank you🙏
Flood🐳+🐋

Edited November 21 by Flood and Flood's wife
punctuation

[BlackEdition]

1 hour ago, Flood and Flood's wife said:

Hello @BlackEdition, 

Once again, we went back to the Kaspersky team on your behalf. We asked them:

"To share a Kaspersky Plus & OR Kaspersky Premium subscription are there any restrictions on *who* those users are?"

Their answer: "No restriction for people who you wish to invite."

We qualified our question: "so we can invite our neighbour, or our church minister or our teacher or a policeman or a homeless person or someone we've never met, is that correct?"

Their answer: "Yes, that's correct."

Thank you🙏
Flood🐳+🐋

Lol thanks for doing that!

But personally, I will still need to check their EULA just to make sure, because an employee saying differently doesn't mean you're exempt from breaking their terms.

[Flood and Flood's wife]

1 minute ago, BlackEdition said:

Lol thanks for doing that!

But personally, I will still need to check their EULA just to make sure, because an employee saying differently doesn't mean you're exempt from breaking their terms.

Your most welcome & knock yourself out @BlackEdition

Thank you🙏
Flood🐳+🐋