kaspersky Plus 21.22.7.466 and Webview2 runtime

[AragornPT]

Hi, why latest build of Kaspersky Plus opens 7 processes of webview2 runtime at start???

Why Kaspersky now needs webview2 runtime???

Thanks,

[harlan4096]

https://eap.kaspersky.com/topic/6427/mr22-release-has-been-signed/9?_=1755846623313

 

 

[AragornPT]

Thank you. 

So... Kaspersky now mimics the worst thing Adobe did to their productivity suite: (I stopped using Adobe products a long time ago) Heavy system footprint of their apps!!!

Do Kaspersky know the meaning of "simplify"???? Also do they know webview2 runtime is present in Windows? Why have a "duplicate" webview2 runtime? and with running processes all the time, only to see "news and advertising" about Kaspersky products?

Complete nonsense! If this is the future for Kasperky, it's better to change to another security suite provider!

For the people annoyed, like me, with this, please do this "temporary procedure": (Valid for Kaspersky Plus running in Win10 22H2)

1) stop Kaspersky self-defense. Quit Kaspersky.

2) go to c:\ProgramData\Kaspersky Lab\AVP21.22/Data/Webview2/Win10/

3) Find and rename the file "msedgewebview2.exe" to "msedgewebview2.ex_"

4) Run Kaspersky. Start again self-defense. No more stupid webview2 processes running all the time.

Please see if this procedure has adverse effects and report to me. Also, if you have an alternative solution, please let me know. Thank you.

Edited 10 hours ago by AragornPT

[AlexeyK]

12 часов назад, AragornPT сказал:

Kaspersky Plus opens 7 processes of webview2 runtime at start

What is the summary memory usage of these processes according to the task manager?

25 минут назад, AragornPT сказал:

please do this "temporary procedure"

Don't you think that one day the GUI will freeze or crash after this action?)

[Berny]

51 minutes ago, AragornPT said:

do they know webview2 runtime is present in Windows?

↓ Yes they know ↓

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↓ The digital signature is signed by Microsoft as genuine and not malware ↓

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[AragornPT]

30 minutes ago, AlexeyK said:

What is the summary memory usage of these processes according to the task manager?

They are not "memory eaters" in my 32MB Ram space, but I don't like to have useless processes running all the time!

Don't you think that one day the GUI will freeze or crash after this action?)

No... the GUI finds easily the main webview2 runtime present in the system! This duplicate is useless. (Someone at Adobe said the same thing till the day I showed them all Adobe apps running well only with the "system" copy of webview2 runtime!) If all software companies install their own runtime, what do we have? 10 webview2 runtimes running in our systems? 20? 100? Kaspersky should check if webview2 runtime is installed and only install it if it's not! Till now the GUI is fine, Kaspersky made a bad move in latest update. Hope they change this! thank you for your opinion.

 

 

[AlexeyK]

1 минуту назад, AragornPT сказал:

GUI finds easily the main webview2 runtime present in the system!

Why do you think so?  Webview2 was intentionally added to the product folder to avoid using the system one - for more control and security. And Kaspersky products is not equal to Adobe products.) Such experiments may have a negative impact on the product.

[AragornPT]

10 minutes ago, Berny said:

↓ Yes they know ↓

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↓ The digital signature is signed by Microsoft as genuine and not malware ↓

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I know webview2 runtime is genuine and signed. That is not the problem here.

2 minutes ago, AlexeyK said:

Why do you think so?  Webview2 was intentionally added to the product folder to avoid using the system one - for more control and security. And Kaspersky products is not equal to Adobe products.) Such experiments may have a negative impact on the product.

As I said, I don't like to have webview2 runtime processes running all the time in my system! It's my system, not Kasperspy system. So, I can live with these "negative impacts" I create and I can always switch to other security suite if I can't feel confortable anymore with Kasperspy products!

[AlexeyK]

1 час назад, AragornPT сказал:

I don't like to have webview2 runtime processes running all the time in my system!

Very funny, thanks for your humor. 🙂

1 час назад, AragornPT сказал:

I can live with these "negative impacts" I create

Yes, you can. But you wrote about it on this forum, so we can discuss the possible results of proposed actions.

[AragornPT]

Of course we can and I appreciate all opinions. For now, I can't see negative side effects. Let's see. 

[AragornPT]

More info on this subject can be found here:

Distribute your app and the WebView2 Runtime - Microsoft Edge Developer documentation | Microsoft Learn

[AragornPT]

If we replace the Win10 folder (in c:\ProgramData\Kaspersky Lab\AV21.22\Data\Webview2) with a shortcut pointing to the system webview2 runtime folder, we are 100% sure about Kaspersky GUI using the system webview2 runtime and no webview2 runtime processes are spotted in the task manager. This is the way things should work! A closed environment with Kaspersky using its own runtime is completely paronoid. I really hope Kaspersky tech staff goes back on this! Using Fixed Version runtime distribution mode against Bootstrap on-line deployment of webview2 runtime has the side effect of multiple webview2 processes running all the time. This should be reviewed and fixed by the devs to stop all of these processes from showing up! Resource optimization should be a priority! (A security suite should work with the smallest footprint to the system)

As a former Microsoft Systems and Data Analyst, I know this can be achieved. Thank you. 

[AlexeyK]

8 минут назад, AragornPT сказал:

A closed environment with Kaspersky using its own runtime is completely paronoid.

Have you read the article? There are 2 distribution modes:

1. The Evergreen Runtime distribution mode

2. The Fixed Version runtime distribution mode

In the Fixed Version distribution mode, you download a specific version of the WebView2 Runtime and package it together with your WebView2 app in your app package. The WebView2 Runtime that you package with your app is used only by your WebView2 app, not by any other apps on the client's machine.

Pros:

• You have more control over versioning of the WebView2 Runtime. You know which WebView2 APIs are available to your app, because you control which version of the WebView2 Runtime is available to your app. Your app doesn't need to test whether the latest APIs are present.

11 минут назад, AragornPT сказал:

a shortcut pointing to the system webview2 runtime folder, we are 100% sure about Kaspersky GUI using the system webview2 runtime

After such manipulations, you can't be sure of anything at all. We're breaking everything even more.🙂

[AragornPT]

1 minute ago, AlexeyK said:

After such manipulations, you can't be sure of anything at all. We're breaking everything even more.🙂

Yes, but I don't have multiple tasks of webview2 runtime running all the time!!! The problem is not Kaspersky using the fixed version runtime distro! The problem is that processes shouldn't show up constantly! Kaspersky can use this "duplicate fixed version runtime" but without this kind of side effects (more processes running all the time). I'm only curious why this happens...

"Curiosity... is insubordination in its purest form.” —Vladimir Nabokov  

[AlexeyK]

3 часа назад, AragornPT сказал:

I'm only curious why this happens...

Obviously, KL developers decided to do so.) Although product 21.22 in my system doesn't run its own WebView2 Runtime at all.) But I have neither news nor KL store in the GUI.

Edited 2 hours ago by AlexeyK

[Berny]

2 hours ago, AragornPT said:

The problem is that processes shouldn't show up constantly!

No repeat here under ' avp.exe '  (Anti-Virus Protection) 🤔 , K Tech Support is your best bet

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[AragornPT]

So, this behavior happens only to me??? 

 

2 hours ago, AlexeyK said:

Obviously, KL developers decided to do so.) Although product 21.22 in my system doesn't run its own WebView2 Runtime at all.) But I have neither news no KL store in the GUI.

[AlexeyK]

24 минуты назад, AragornPT сказал:

this behavior happens only to me?

This webview is for web content, I don't have it yet.

Are these processes exactly running from the product folder, have you checked it?