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It has been a pleasure to run Kaspersky Updater 2.3.2.150 together with PURE 12.0.1.288. I wanted to only update my signature database in PURE, but not automatically download and install the upcoming patch D for PURE. The intention was to create an image backup of my system drive before PURE was patched. Thanks to a reply from JanRei, I was able to achieve what I wanted. Settings: PURE with manual update, Updater with application filter enabled, scheduled update including update of the db in PURE.

 

Instead of a patch to PURE, a new build was released today. I assume I now have to wait for an update of KUU2 to include the app PURE 12.0.2.733.

 

It is very easy to use the Updater; the only issue that have been a bit confusing, is the message “Retranslation successful and update is not requested” (RC35). “Retranslation” and “update is not requested”? I think the German text is more understandable: “Alle angeforderten Updatekomponenten wurden erfolgreich heruntergeladen”. If the English text was something like “All necessary components are downloaded and updated”, the message would be more understandable to me.

 

Have I understood the RC35 message correctly?

 

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You can continue to use the Update Utility, the only problem I expect: if you have application filtering enabled you will get hotfixes only for PURE 12.0.1.288/303, but not for PURE 12.0.2.733. There are no hotfixes for the new version yet though.

 

There is a support article with explanations of the return codes. RC35 means everything has been downloaded successfully. I think the English text is correct (technically speaking), but it could be confusing and I would agree the German text is easier to understand.

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Thanks for your reply, JanRei.

Your link to the support article gave me 'Page not found'. I performed a search and found these:

 

http://support.kaspersky.com/updater2/for_...s?qid=208284962 [article 6948] 2011-06-29

35 Retranslation successful and update is not requested

= antivirus databases and modules for selected software successfully downloaded.

 

http://support.kaspersky.com/updater/for_w...s?qid=208279243 [article 1273] 2010-12-20

35 Retranslation successful and update is not requested

= The return code means the updates specified in the in-file have been downloaded successfully.

 

So I am convinced that RC35 tells about a successful update.

 

But, sorry, now I am confused about the application filter.

 

if you have application filtering enabled you will get hotfixes only for PURE 12.0.1.288/303, but not for PURE 12.0.2.733.

As far as I can understand, you are telling the opposite of what article 4161 says [http://support.kaspersky.com/updater/for_windows?qid=208282172]

Configurable filters:

By Kaspersky Lab application version (not for all applications). This filter is most useful for downloading patches for applications. E.g., if you are using KIS 9.0.0.736 and enable this filter, the utility will exclude patches for KIS 9.0.0.463 from downloading.

If I do NOT want to download/install the hotfixes (patches), should I then CHECK or UNCHECK the option 'Filter by applications/Enable filter'?

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You can continue to use the Update Utility, the only problem I expect: if you have application filtering enabled you will get hotfixes only for PURE 12.0.1.288/303, but not for PURE 12.0.2.733. There are no hotfixes for the new version yet though.

To update PURE 12.0.2.733 from Kaspersky Updater seems to give a lot of errors.

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If you don't want to download hotfixes then select "Application databases only" in settings, this is the option responsible for that.

 

The application filter is not about downloading hotfixes or not. It makes sure you only get patches/databases that are needed for your product and product version. Files that are only needed for other products or other product versions are excluded from being downloaded. For example, if you select updates for PURE 2.0 then it will exclude files for KAV/KIS or other versions of PURE. You will notice the effect in particular with hotfixes. Without application filtering you would get hotfixes for all versions of PURE that have been released so far (PURE 9.* and 12.*). Since you have disabled the downloading of patches this does not apply to you. Application filtering is also used for databases, but I do not expect problems there. I am not aware of changes between the builds of PURE 2.0.

 

If you select PURE 12.0.1.288 then the utility sets the filter to "KTS 12.0.1.*". You can change this manually in ss_storage.ini, but it will be overwritten by the utility if you change settings. However, as I tried to explain you should not be affected by this small compatibility problem, at least not in this case. For full compatibility with PURE 2.0 CF2 a new version of the utility would be needed though.

 

Regarding the update errors:

Do you have "Copy updates to folder" enabled in PURE? You cannot use this option together with the update utility and enabled filters.

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I feel dumb, JanRei. I misread your initial reply in the PURE forum; it was a bad idea to think of 'Filters'. Of course you meant: Settings>Updates source and folders>Download =Application databases only.

 

"Copy updates to folder" was disabled in PURE when I used 12.0.1.288. I am not sure whether this option was enabled when I had several “Update files are corrupted” (update source is the folder from KUU2). I have to try again. From time to time I receive similar error messages during a “normal” PURE update, but in most cases the error is resolved by a new update.

 

Thanks for sharing your knowledge, JanRei.

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Regarding the update errors:

Do you have "Copy updates to folder" enabled in PURE? You cannot use this option together with the update utility and enabled filters.

I guess I re-enabled this feature after installing PURE 2.0 CF2. Of course there is no need for this distribution folder when you use the Updater Utility.

 

I disabled the feature on Saturday. All subsequent updates were error free in PURE!!!

 

Today I performed a test: I re-enabled "Copy updates to folder": The number of signatures increased (to 9,711,231), but 3 corrupted databases (KDB/EMU/INFO) were logged in PURE. I then disabled the copy option and started the updater once more. Now, 3 mins after the previous update, I had an error free update in PURE. Now 9,712,099 signatures.

 

You are definitely right, JanRei. Be sure to disable the copy-option in PURE if you use the Updater Utility (I assume the option will disappear in the next version of PURE.) As I wrote, from time to time I have had errors (“corrupted databases”) during a normal PURE update, but in most cases a repeated update resolved the issue. Maybe the errors were caused by the copy-option in PURE? Maybe the KUU2 is a more stable procedure?

 

In any case: I am happy with my new solution, PURE 12.0.2.733 and Kaspersky Update Utility 2.0.

 

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There can be update errors sometimes because of transmission errors or other temporary problems. It should not happen often though and usually it should get fixed with one of the next updates.

 

In normal update mode PURE only downloads files needed for your system and installed product version. Then you can define filters in update utility to downloaded only needed files. Everything should work fine.

 

If you have enabled the copying of updates then PURE will not apply filters. This way you could use the updates on other systems as well. You can still use the update utility, but you cannot use filters. Because in this case PURE would try to get some files that have been filtered and are missing in your update folder.

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