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Caos
Hi,

All new Mp4 R2 versions now available.

Downloads links (Software and documentation):

Kaspersky Administration Kit v8.0.2048 (light) and v8.0.2048 (full)
http://www.kaspersky.com/productupdates?chapter=146274756

Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Windows Workstations v6.0.4.1212
http://www.kaspersky.com/productupdates?chapter=146274385

Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Windows Server v6.0.4.1212
http://www.kaspersky.com/productupdates?chapter=146274391

Kaspersky Anti-Virus Second Opinion Solution v6.0.4.1212
http://www.kaspersky.com/productupdates?chapter=207716558


Regards
Ricimer
MP4 is horribly broken for users of Adobe Flash Professional CS4. When using the IK bone tool Adobe becomes so slow it is no longer useable.

Moving a simple 3 box animation will take 5-10 minutes on a core2 1.8GHz with 2GB RAM. This seems to be due to a huge performance hit to registry read/writes. While adobe is badly behaved performing 2 million or so accesses during the animation steps it will only take 30 seconds or so without AV. This increases to around a minute with MP3. MP4 is exponentially worse, even with Flash.exe excluded, proactive defense off. Even stopping AV will not restore performance, removing MP4 is the only solution.

It's a pity as MP3 is badly behaved with vista, killing my network on several occasions.
emsee
QUOTE(Caos @ 30.09.2009 16:23) *
Hi,

All new Mp4 R2 versions now available.

Downloads links (Software and documentation):

Kaspersky Administration Kit v8.0.2048 (light) and v8.0.2048 (full)
http://www.kaspersky.com/productupdates?chapter=146274756


I'm getting 'Not Found' errors for the links to the full & light Admin Kit 8
dawinci
Unfortunately you're right. Use this source for full version of Adminkit8:
ftp://ftp.kaspersky.com/products/english/...strationkit8.0/
kwg
QUOTE(emsee @ 2.10.2009 00:44) *
I'm getting 'Not Found' errors for the links to the full & light Admin Kit 8

QUOTE(dawinci @ 2.10.2009 00:48) *
Unfortunately you're right. Use this source for full version of Adminkit8:
ftp://ftp.kaspersky.com/products/english/...strationkit8.0/

Apparently, KAV for Workstations 6.0.4.1212 requires Admin Kit 8. I'm getting "Not Found" errors however I access the Admin Kit 8 download, whether via HTTP or FTP.
Helmut
Try here.

Sorry, they have deleted only AdminKit files.

Workstation and file server are available.
Caos
Yes, same here.

The .exe are "missing"

emsee
QUOTE(dawinci @ 2.10.2009 09:48) *
Unfortunately you're right. Use this source for full version of Adminkit8:
ftp://ftp.kaspersky.com/products/english/...strationkit8.0/


I can't access the Admin Kit files by FTP or http either.
I think either someone has forgot to upload them or they've been pulled for some reason.

The RC I've been testing initially solved the problem with updates taking a long time and slowing down PC's but the update time seems to have got gradually worse again and this morning, my PC took over 20 mins to complete it's update mad.gif
I hope this issue is solved in the released version otherwise I'll be looking elsewhere for an AV solution.
emsee
Looks like the links are back up biggrin.gif
Ricimer
I have been testing MP4 for a few weeks now but have only recently identified it as the culprit for various performance issues on test machine.

The problem is the fact that while avp.exe shows no CPU or is even not loaded, application performance remains an order of magnitude slower than usual. It's not as obvious in all applications, but for some it is unbearable.

So far flash professional is the one affected the most, with a simple animation going from 20 seconds to complete to around 400. Word mail merges when printing go from 50+ pages a second sent to the printer to a single page every couple of seconds (a serious delay with hundreds of pages to print).

Each time AVP seems to be doing nothing, when stopping AV, excluding the process, pausing or disabling the performance does NOT return to normal levels. So far the only cure is to uninstall MP4. I have tracked the cause of the slowdown to the KLIF file system filter. Remove the driver from the registry and application performance returns to expected levels.

It seems that the filter driver is exceptionally slow, especially using registry access heavy applications. Until this is fixed MP4 is unusable with many applications. I'm so concerned with the performance that I've even considered not using 20 months of our 500 user license and returning to NOD32.

For now I will have to move all the test machines back to MP3, which while it does slow applications (as any AV will) they are an acceptable level.


Has anyone else experienced extreme application slowdown with MP4?
Caos
QUOTE(Ricimer @ 5.10.2009 12:00) *
I have been testing MP4 for a few weeks now but have only recently identified it as the culprit for various performance issues on test machine.

The problem is the fact that while avp.exe shows no CPU or is even not loaded, application performance remains an order of magnitude slower than usual. It's not as obvious in all applications, but for some it is unbearable.

So far flash professional is the one affected the most, with a simple animation going from 20 seconds to complete to around 400. Word mail merges when printing go from 50+ pages a second sent to the printer to a single page every couple of seconds (a serious delay with hundreds of pages to print).

Each time AVP seems to be doing nothing, when stopping AV, excluding the process, pausing or disabling the performance does NOT return to normal levels. So far the only cure is to uninstall MP4. I have tracked the cause of the slowdown to the KLIF file system filter. Remove the driver from the registry and application performance returns to expected levels.

It seems that the filter driver is exceptionally slow, especially using registry access heavy applications. Until this is fixed MP4 is unusable with many applications. I'm so concerned with the performance that I've even considered not using 20 months of our 500 user license and returning to NOD32.

For now I will have to move all the test machines back to MP3, which while it does slow applications (as any AV will) they are an acceptable level.
Has anyone else experienced extreme application slowdown with MP4?


Few weeks? It´s recently released (3 or 4 days) ?

Give more information: S.O. y servicepacks installed, Version and build installed, post your getsysteminfo (gsi), and avz log for review.

Regards
Ricimer
QUOTE(Caos @ 5.10.2009 11:59) *
Few weeks? It´s recently released (3 or 4 days) ?

Give more information: S.O. y servicepacks installed, Version and build installed, post your getsysteminfo (gsi), and avz log for review.

Regards


I have been using RC1, RC2 and RC3 for some time. I was tracking down the issue on RC3 but was unable to get my account enabled for the testing forum, presumably because the RC has now ended. I updated some test machines to 1212 to see if the issue was still present, which it is.

I have sent a systeminfo and trace log to the UK business support. It's unfortunate as the rest of MP4 is a considerable improvement over MP3.
vadim63
Hi,

What about new version of Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Windows Server Enterprise? No product for 2008 R2 Core yet?
Caos
QUOTE(vadim63 @ 5.10.2009 22:31) *
Hi,

What about new version of Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Windows Server Enterprise? No product for 2008 R2 Core yet?


Not. Kaspersky is working in the next version.

At the moment the product for Windows Server 2008 RC2 is the Kaspersky Anti-Virus MP4 v6.0.4.1212 for Windows Servers.
vadim63
QUOTE(Caos @ 6.10.2009 08:29) *
Not. Kaspersky is working in the next version.

At the moment the product for Windows Server 2008 RC2 is the Kaspersky Anti-Virus MP4 v6.0.4.1212 for Windows Servers.


Thanks for the info. Somebody told me that I should wait for Enterprise version. As far, as I know - MP3 isn't working with Core R2. I'll try MP4.
vadim63
No, unfortunately it's failed. The error is
"Kaspersky Anti-Virus 6.0 for Windows Servers MP4 (6.0.4.1212): Remote installation failed on the computer: Fatal error during installation. (This application could not be installed. MS Internet Explorer version 5 or higher required.)"
Caos
I have installed Kaspersky Anti-Virus 6.0 for Windows Servers MP4 (6.0.4.1212) in my Windows Server 2008 R2, without any problem.

Please post the getsysteminfo (gsi) of the W2k8 R2 server.

Regards
Syn
Caos, he means R2 Core. There is no support on that platform yet.
Caos
Sorry I didn't see the word "Core" in the topic

Please review the systems requirementes for Kaspersky Antivirus MP4 for windows servers:

http://www.kaspersky.com/koss-2_system_requirements#comp3

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Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Windows Servers
Hardware requirements     Software requirements

    * 100 MB of free space on the hard drive;
    * CD-ROM (to install Kaspersky Anti-Virus 6.0 for Windows Servers via CD);
    * 1 GB RAM;
    * Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher (for updating threat signatures and application modules over the Internet).
    * Microsoft Windows Installer 2.0 or higher.

    * Windows 2000 Server/Advanced Server (SP4 and higher)
    * Windows Server 2003 Web/Standard/Enterprise Edition (SP2 and higher)
    * Windows Server 2003 x64 Web/Standard/Enterprise Edition (SP2 and higher)
    * Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard/Enterprise Edition
    * Windows Server 2003 R2 x64 Standard/Enterprise Edition
    * Windows Server 2008 Standard/Enterprise (SP1 and higher)
    * Windows Server 2008 x64 Standard/Enterprise (SP1 and higher)
    * Windows Server 2008 R2 x64 Standard/Enterprise
    * Windows Small Business Server 2003
    * Windows Small Business Server 2008
    * Windows Essential Business Server 2008

Note: Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 (Service Pack 6a) supports Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Windows Servers 6.0.3.x
Other:

The product is fully compatible with VMWare server 1.0.1 - 1.0.5 and VMware Workstation for Windows 5.0.0, 5.5.1, 5.5.2, 6.0.0, 6.5.0.

Note: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Windows Servers does not support IA-64 (Itanium) Processors



vadim63
Yes, guys. I'm talking about CORE. So, do you have any idea about release date for Enterprise version? Actually, it's very important for our company.
grafikal
So far we have experienced issues with deploying MP4 on server running SCCM 2007 - became nonfunctional (currently trying MP3 on it) and issues on a server running OpManager network monitoring software which stop receiving traps (returned it to Enterprise Edition as it is a x64 Windows 2008 server). Seems like there are still some issues left to iron out.
DavidW
QUOTE(Ricimer @ 5.10.2009 10:00) *
Each time AVP seems to be doing nothing, when stopping AV, excluding the process, pausing or disabling the performance does NOT return to normal levels. So far the only cure is to uninstall MP4. I have tracked the cause of the slowdown to the KLIF file system filter. Remove the driver from the registry and application performance returns to expected levels.

It seems that the filter driver is exceptionally slow, especially using registry access heavy applications. Until this is fixed MP4 is unusable with many applications. I'm so concerned with the performance that I've even considered not using 20 months of our 500 user license and returning to NOD32.

For now I will have to move all the test machines back to MP3, which while it does slow applications (as any AV will) they are an acceptable level.
Has anyone else experienced extreme application slowdown with MP4?

What you say rings true for me. MP4 paralyses machines that ran perfectly adequately with MP3 - especially older machines that are inevitably much slower than the latest hardware. MP4 is much more bearable on newer hardware.

I have pulled back MP4 from my network today. On one workstation, it was taking 20 seconds plus to open a new tab in Internet Explorer 8 with MP4 installed. This returned to under a second once MP3 was reinstalled.


As you say, the slow down isn't in avp.exe and it doesn't depend which options you have selected. Stopping all AV functions doesn't restore performance as you would expect. Whilst I haven't had an opportunity to test unhooking klif.sys from the registry, it would make sense for the problem to be in a low level driver such as this - I recall how problems in klif.sys have caused mayhem in the past (with one faulty MP3 update interacting with Diskeeper).


Overall, MP4 looks very good, but this issue makes it unusable for me and I'm a little sad that it wasn't picked up during testing. I'll leave it in Administration Kit ready to deploy again later on, after Kaspersky have had chance to fix this problem. As I'm intending to replace my current machines with new hardware running Windows 7, I'm going to need MP4 eventually.

Ironically, all this comes a few days after I renewed my licences for two years. Though it's OT here, that went horribly wrong, with Digital River sending me an activation code that had already been used by someone else then, when I complained, they did the same thing again! I had to call tech support to secure an emergency 30 day licence until they had had time to investigate, after which they emailed me permanent key files.
jmpait
I have experienced system performance slow downs too. After I install MP4, things seem fine. I can open programs, including IE, and use them normally. But if I try to go to a network share and copy files, create a new folder, etc, my machine pretty much becomes unusable. This issue happens with doing the same on local drives as well, but only after trying anything on a network share first. I have tested this on 2 computers, both experience the same issue.
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